change and radical departures from what we've seen in the past. As much as attractive as
they may once have seemed, I think they're inducing a sense of fatigue in the American
people, and they just want to impose some order.
And I think again, I'll finish with Ron DeSantis. DeSantis, the appeal of DeSantis is not only that
he's a Republican with a solid record of achievement, but that he does represent some
stability. He represents order, you know, he took that very firm line against shutting down the
state for COVID, and it turned out to be very successful economically for Florida. So, that
whole sense that the country has gone through in the last five years with Trump, and the
pandemic, and uncertainty over the economy, and inflation, and just this sense that things are
spinning out of control. I think their indications are that Americans really, really want someone
to kind of return the country to a sense of order, and normality, and stability.
And on the Democratic side, that will doubtless be the case that Joe Biden will try to make.
But I do think on the Republican side, that is very much the case that Ron DeSantis can make.
So, I think there is a lot of optimism, actually, to be had out of this that maybe, without
suggesting that we're going to go back to the policies that arguably failed America, we may at
least have a chance of moving the country forward, but in a more stable, and a more ordered,
and a less chaotic way than we've seen in the last five years.
52:48 | William Lewis
Ok, well look, fantastic conversation. I've learned a huge amount. Thank you for everyone who
has tuned in. thank you to you, Gerry, And thank you to you, Simon. And look forward to
speaking with you all again soon.
53:07 | Simon Freakley
Thank you very much indeed.
53:09 | Gerald Baker
Thank you both. Thanks, everybody.
53:11 | Simon Freakley
Thank you.